tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post909751102313198529..comments2023-10-09T09:37:48.434-04:00Comments on Codepimps: The Challenge of Using Multiple LanguagesAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04761888377101907631noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-86856541614448559052010-08-23T21:09:15.224-04:002010-08-23T21:09:15.224-04:00Big company, multiple interests, left-hand/right-h...Big company, multiple interests, left-hand/right-hand, etc, etc.<br /><br />But I agree with you, that part of the story is quite confusing. I'll point your blog post to the GlassFish Product Managers.<br /><br />We will highlight any new announcements from J1 at The Aquarium [1] and other channels.<br /><br />[1] http://blogs.sun.com/theaquariumpelegrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16469447400885151834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-7451959691789840972010-08-23T19:40:58.713-04:002010-08-23T19:40:58.713-04:00Then for pity sake, change its stance on the marke...Then for pity sake, change its stance on the marketing front.<br /><br />When I hear it's the development server and the only highlight mentioned is its quick startup time, it freaks me out.<br /><br />I wish I was going to JavaOne, just too busy. Would love to talk to the Netbeans and Glassfish guys.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04761888377101907631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-34915086636309700242010-08-23T19:37:06.510-04:002010-08-23T19:37:06.510-04:00Actually, GlassFish is in very good shape inside O...Actually, GlassFish is in very good shape inside Oracle because it addresses a number of market and technology needs. If you have not seen it yet, check out the GlassFish roadmap presentation at http://glassfish.org/roadmap<br /><br />Stay tuned for some additional roadmap details during JavaOne. Also, if you are attending J1, you may want to consider coming to our Community event [1] and grill us to your satisfaction.<br /><br /> - Eduardo<br /><br />[1]http://wikis.sun.com/display/GlassFish/GlassFish+2010+Community+Event+and+Partypelegrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16469447400885151834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-38131584635473388772010-08-23T18:20:34.793-04:002010-08-23T18:20:34.793-04:00Honestly, leaving Netbeans was very, very hard. I...Honestly, leaving Netbeans was very, very hard. I loved that product and the core experience. It just came down to the plugins.<br /><br />For Glassfish, even with all the assurances made by Oracle, I still don't feel confident the product has much of a future. <br /><br />When I hear Oracle say Glassfish will be their "quick development platform" and they only highlight its startup time as the key factor, to me, it makes me very uneasy because it makes me think Glassfish will always be an afterthought to WebLogic. It also makes me quite angry if I can be honest with you because I still think Glassfish is the best.<br /><br />Even if Oracle bought WebLogic, Glassfish is still a superior product. Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04761888377101907631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-53360406576005678672010-08-23T14:47:16.256-04:002010-08-23T14:47:16.256-04:00Anything we can do to keep you as a GlassFish user...Anything we can do to keep you as a GlassFish user? Is your question about the strategic place of GlassFish inside Oracle? Something else?pelegrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16469447400885151834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-73148216518427517082010-08-23T09:59:48.976-04:002010-08-23T09:59:48.976-04:00Very good article and comments. I find it kind of ...Very good article and comments. I find it kind of sad that you actually have to use an IDE because of the plugins that are available. It's pretty much the same as *having* to use Windows because some of your favourites, or just "too used to" programs won't run on either Linux, Mac or OS of your choice. I see the IDE for a programmer as the OS for a user. You want to use the one of your choice... the one you really liked for your personal sugar flavour. With Java, it was great, because now you can have one code base, have standard libs as jar and execute all of this on the OS of your choice... if that is, Windows, Linux, Mac and many others... even that BluRay player you use to entertain yourself when it's raining outside and you got nothing else to do. So it's very sweet for all users, but what about the devs? If the OS is for the user what the IDE is for the developer, you should be able to use the IDE you like, no? Answer is.. sure, but it's actually a bit harder than that. Create a real project in eclipse, or better.. take one that already exists, and try to code in Netbeans or any other IDE while maintaining the necessary for everyone running on Eclipse.. yeah, a bit tricky in some cases. IDEs are not used to understand the same paths for the libs... the warnings are set in some kind of UI that are different, and never easy to import/export. Many, many things are different, and yeah.. the worse? The plugins... They are sweet, but they are basically making you stay on one IDE because the other doesn't have some of the commands they could provide. I do find this very annoying... but what can we do? Am I really going to send a mail to Adobe in order to finally have Photoshop under Linux? Nah... not going to happen, so I stick with Gimp... even if it's not as good and doesn't offer the kitchen sink, I still prefer to be on Linux for some other tasks.iscyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05670034220158502700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-56086725579632512232010-08-23T08:23:45.514-04:002010-08-23T08:23:45.514-04:00It does have a plugin but the plugin is always pla...It does have a plugin but the plugin is always playing catchup. How can they do anything else? GWT is open source but the plugin is not. Furthermore, Google bought Instantiations, so we'll be getting a visual editor for GWT in their plugin soon enough, that's what really made the difference.<br /><br />The AppEngine one is fine.<br /><br />The Android one isn't. Can't even add jars to it.<br /><br />The Scala plugin for Netbeans is coming along, but again, doesn't match what's available for Eclipse.<br /><br />We have no plans to use WebLogic. We'll be moving to AppEngine, and for applications that people don't want AppEngine, we'll be using Geronimo most likely.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04761888377101907631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5718830037963456761.post-6952274478001987752010-08-23T04:24:56.896-04:002010-08-23T04:24:56.896-04:00Hello, sorry to hear you are leaving the NetBeans ...Hello, sorry to hear you are leaving the NetBeans camp. NetBeans does have plugins for GWT, AppEngine and Android, though I do not know how they compare to the plugins for Eclipse. However, the latest release of the Scala plugin for NetBeans is excellent (I heard), so you may want to give it a try.<br />If your future projects involve GlassFish or WebLogic, please try out NetBeans again. GlassFish support in NetBeans is already very good and improving every day, the WebLogic integration will be much improved in the upcoming release. See also the <a href="http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB610" rel="nofollow">list of new features that were already implemented for 6.10</a>.<br /><br />Anyway, I wish you luck with your future projects - whatever IDE you use for them. <br /><br />Petr, NetBeans team.Petr Jirickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780673127007719372noreply@blogger.com